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What the Founding Fathers and Jesus Had to Say About You and Guns

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Last week, one of my readers made a comment in the comment section questioning why I call the right to keep and bear arms my “God given right.” He spouted off a lot of anger about the notion and he highlighted exactly what the gun controllers would have us believe, that the right to keep and bear arms is a Man given right.  You see, if it’s a right given by man it can be taken by man.

Here’s his entire comment:

While I do agree that you should have the right to carry a firearm, not an m60 but a real side arm, where in the bible does it say that you’re allowed to carry a firearm? If you want to make a cogent argument for carrying a firearm leave God out of it. Otherwise you sound like a nut ball, gun toting, redneck, crazy person. There is no God given right that allows you to carry a firearm. That is a man made right. Again I support being able to carry a firearm, but bringing religion into it as a backup for your argument is ridiculous.

I question his actual belief in the 2nd Amendment because he starts off his comment by infringing upon his own right.  Next I wonder whether he is just an angry atheist because he equates believing and stating that God grants us our natural rights can somehow be construed as making one a “nutball, gun toting, redneck, crazy person.”

He goes on to once again claim that the right to keep and bear arms is a man made right and calls any reference to God “ridiculous.”

I wonder what this commenter has to say about the Founding Fathers and some of our most important written documents.

It starts at the very foundation of our nation.  Our first act of revolution declared that:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

And the Declaration of Independence ended with a firm belief and reliance on God:

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

The birth of our nation came with the understanding that we are given rights, liberty and freedom from a power greater than man.  Therefore man cannot strip us of those rights.  They can deny us our rights but they cannot strip us of them.  Just because an innocent man goes to jail, that doesn’t make him guilty, as such the denial of a right does not mean that it is not a right all the same.

Why is the God given right to keep and bear arms so important?  How do I know that the right to keep and bear arms is one of those unalienable rights mentioned in the Declaration?

Because the Declaration goes on to talk about overthrowing tyranny and you don’t do that by talking about it.

“That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government.”

“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

You are not going to “throw off such Government” by having a drum circle.

I’ve been talking a lot about God given rights, but you may be asking “what does the bible say specifically about the right to keep and bear arms?”

That answer can be found in the book of Luke chapter 22 when Jesus spoke to his disciples:

“Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

That’s Jesus recommending that his disciples keep and bear arms even if they have to sell their cloaks in order to do so.

So not only is going out armed in the bible, it is also highlighted as an unalienable right given to us by God (or whomever you believe is your creator).

Here’s what our the Founding Fathers said on the subject:

“A free people ought to be armed.”
– George Washington

“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
– Benjamin Franklin

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.”
– Thomas Jefferson

“I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.”
– Thomas Jefferson

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  • Hop

    Rights granted by Nature and by Nature’s God…

    • There are two inherent problems with the oft-parroted idea of God-given constitutional rights:

      1) Except PERHAPS as the documents’ timekeeper in Article 7, the Constitution knows nothing of God, and 2) God and His Word knows nothing of optional rights, easily controlled by government.

      Think about it: The Amendment WITH the wording “shall not be infringed” is the MOST infringed, licensed, and limited Amendment of the entire twenty seven. Furthermore, a future generation of posterity are likely to see the Second Amendment whittle away entirely or repealed altogether. This is the inherent nature and danger of optional Enlightenment rights versus God-expected Biblical responsibilities.

      See blog article “America’s Road to Hell: Paved With Rights” at http://www.constitutionmythbusters.org/americas-hell-paved-with-rights/.

  • Along with a couple of others instances, the Second Amendment is the closest thing in the Constitution to being Biblical. However, bearing arms in defense of ourselves, families, and others was robbed of its potency when the constitutional framers made it an optional Enlightenment right rather than a God-expected Biblical responsibility:

    “Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword [or today’s equivalent] in their hand; to execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people; to bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron; to execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye Yah!” (Psalm 149:6-9)

    “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house [beginning with spiritual and physical protection], he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.” (1 Timothy 5:8)

    For more, listen to “The Second Amendment: A Knife in a Gunfight” at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.com/#FeaturedMessages.

    If you prefer to read, see our blog article “The Second Amendment is Doomed.”

    • psychicbloodbrother

      The liberty of the lord cannot be taken away only given up. It is the same with the constitution. Why your organization constantly works to diminish the constitution as a means to make arguments for Christianity remains very puzzling to me.

      • Yes, I know it does. But what puzzles me is why you persist in trying to make a document that is antithetical, if not seditious, to Yahweh’s sovereignty and morality in nearly every Article and Amendment somehow compatible with the Bible?

        For evidence, see free online book “Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective,” in which every Article and Amendment is examined by the Bible, at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/BlvcOnline/blvc-index.html.

        • psychicbloodbrother

          Islamist’s take the same position in their religious zealotry as they work towards Sharia Law. The ethics & principles of Natural law in western society are not antithetical towards peaceful religious zealotry but this religious zealotry is antithetical to the ethics and principles of natural law in western society. The only real difference is that Christianity stands for faith , hope and charity with an emphasis on freedom, choice, redemption and grace. Islam demands control, coercion, punishment, pain and death as in the “old testament”. At least your on the Christian side Ted. I don’t want a theocracy in the west and the American Constitution prevents theocracy. Maybe that’s why you don’t like the Constitution?

          • “Do we then make void the law through faith [or grace]? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.” (Romans 3:31)

            “For certain persons [such as Psychic Blood Brother] have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness [if you have an 1828 Websters Dictionary, look up the word] and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.” (Jude 1:4)

            When one understands that the principal means by which we keep the First Commandment is by observing Yahweh’s other moral laws (of course, under the New Covenant, through Christ as Lord and Savior, motivated by love) and that idolatry is not so much about statues as it is statutes, it becomes clear that all governments are theocratic, serving either the true God or some false god, demonstrated by what laws they keep and consider the supreme law of the land.

            Furthermore, all non-existent false gods (1Corinthians 8:4-6) always have been and always will represent we the people in one form or another.

            “…There is no escaping theocracy. A government’s laws reflect its morality, and the source of that morality (or, more often than not, immorality) is its god. It is never a question of theocracy or no theocracy, but whose theocracy. The American people, by way of their elected officials, are the source of the Constitutional Republic’s laws. Therefore, the Constitutional Republic’s god is WE THE PEOPLE.

            “People recoil at the idea of a theocracy’s morality being forced upon them, but because all governments are theocracies, someone’s morality is always being enforced. This is an inevitability of government. The question is which god, theocracy, laws, and morality will we choose to live under?…”

            For more, see online Chapter 3 “The Preamble: WE THE PEOPLE vs. YAHWEH” at bibleversusconstitution.org/BlvcOnline/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt3.html.

          • psychicbloodbrother

            Nice to see you coming around Ted. The false morale equivalence that all governments are theocracies is a bit flimsy. We the people is the first check in the checks and balances in a representative government. Consent of the governed is implicit in we the people as well, that is right out of the story of King David. In the west we have a choice to be free, as opposed to the east where people are forced. Christianity thrives when people make the right free choice(s) and Sharia Law for example, cannot survive unless it is forced. Have a blessed day. (2 Corinthians 3:17)

          • Nice to see you finally promote Scripture instead of the biblically seditious Constitution. Oops, I guess you’re real intent in doing so was a futile attempt to somehow make the Constitution look biblical and Christian.

            Sorry, didn’t work. Because neither the Spirit of the Lord, God, His Son, or His law can be found in the Constitution, it has not brought America liberty but slavery. America, thus, finds herself today teetering on the precipice of moral depravity and destruction.

            Liberty was formally and nationally lost when the late 18th-century Enlightenment and Masonic founders made liberty a goal (almost a god) instead of a corollary of instituting Yahweh’s perfect law of liberty (Psalm 19:7-11, 119:44-45, James 2:12) as the supreme law of the land. No, they instead made We the People’s law the supreme law (per Article 6) in a classic case of humanism, which is merely a contemporary form of Baalism.

            See blog article “Could You be a Disciple of Baal and Not Know It?” at http://www.constitutionmythbusters.org/could-you-be-a-disciple-of-baal-and-not-know-it/.

          • psychicbloodbrother

            Duh. Jesus hated the works of the Nicolaitans. Its the actions that matter. The pursuit of Liberty is also a parallel between the Constitution and Salvation. If the actions of men did not align with the liberty of the lord then that is on them. Don’t conflate the actions of men with a parchment framework of western civilization. It is the actions that matter and we as Christians need to “do the right thing” so that we are the best we can be here and now. We don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater & we don’t throw out the constitution because it is not perfect either. It is the actions of each of us that matter most. Should we hate the masons or the works of the masons? There is no morale equivalence between God’s constitutions and man’s constitution. But there are parallels and it is what we do that matters. Were all sinners Ted (Mathew 12:25).

          • You wrote, “It is the actions that matter and we as Christians need to “do the right
            thing” so that we are the best we can be here and now.”

            I couldn’t have said it better: Consequently, I hope you’ll repent of your actions: Your promotion of the biblically seditious Constitution as the supreme law of the land.

            So far, you’ve only proven to a Baal (We the People) worshiper and that idols die hard.

          • psychicbloodbrother

            Again your conclusion is the same as the Islamists…..”America is the great Satan”. Good luck with that Ted.

          • There you go falsely accusing me again–but then that comes as no surprise since you have so little regard for Yahweh’s morality as reflected in His commandments, statutes, and judgments.

            Muslims are out to destroy America. I’m out to save America, by the only means possible: Repentance of her sedition against Yahweh as her sovereign and His law as supreme. and all such people, as yourself, who instead promote We the People as sovereign and their biblically seditious Constitution as the supreme law of the land.

          • SickandTired

            It appears to be Ted and his group’s Yaweh and Christianity vs The Muslim Brotherhood’s Allah and Sharia Law to conquer the hearts and minds of America! I’ not sure where the other religious sects fit into the equation. My how times have changed in the short 238 years of America!!

          • My how things have changed in 364 years:

            “…Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America, 1835:’They [the 17th-century Colonials] exercised the rights of
            sovereignty; they named their magistrates, concluded peace or declared
            war, made police regulations, and enacted laws as if their allegiance
            was due only to God. Nothing can be more curious and, at the same time
            more instructive, than the legislation of that period; it is there that
            the solution of the great social problem which the United States now
            presents to the world is to be found [in perfect fulfillment of Deuteronomy 5:5-8].

            “Amongst these documents we
            shall notice, as especially characteristic, the code of laws promulgated
            by the little State of Connecticut in 1650. The legislators of
            Connecticut begin with the penal laws, and … they borrow their
            provisions from the text of Holy Writ … copied verbatim from the books of Exodus, Leviticus, and
            Deuteronomy….’23

            “America was exalted in the
            eyes of the world because of her applied righteousness, embodied in
            Yahweh’s perfect law. Since 1788, when the United States of America, as a
            nation, stopped following Yahweh’s laws and began following the laws of
            WE THE PEOPLE, our legislation has ceased providing righteous
            instruction to others. Instead, the rest of the world now holds America
            in disdain. If America hopes to regain her favored status in the eyes of
            the world, she must return to her original Constitution….”

            For more, see online Chapter 3 “The Preamble: WE THE PEOPLE vs. YAHWEH” of “Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective” at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/BlvcOnline/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt3.html.

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  • durabo

    Also Luke 11: 21-22, which describes the Castle Doctrine:
    “When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace; but when one stronger than he assails him and overcomes him, he takes away his armor in which he trusted, and divides his spoil.”

    • James Weatherly

      Obama’s Plan to Over Throw the PEOPLE , When the PEOPLE should be over throwing the Government !! When are complacent Americans going to wake up ?? OH I Know when, When a Muslum Extremist Knocks on your Door demanding our Head !!!

      • Subdoc101

        And by then. …it’ll be to late. Unless of course you have plenty of ammo and are proficient at putting it where you want it…..at a very high velocity.

    • trollhunterforlife45

      Now that is an answer to an assault by the enemy first. No God fearing Judge or Prosecuting Atty will debate that ! We hope in these modern times Peace to you Brother !

  • hijinx60

    The Second Amendment is the Glue that binds all of the others. All of the other Amendments could be taken away by a despotic government if it so willed, but the Second guarantees that this cannot happen. An armed people are a free people while an unarmed citizenry are but serfs. This is a God given right and, I believe, a requirement. Kennesaw, Georgia passed a law that all citizens who can possess a gun must possess one and be trained in its use. Since that time, their violent crime rate has remained a constant zero. This Amendment is the only thing that keeps Obama from becoming an absolute dictator and establishing a caliphate with himself at its head. Whether musket and sword or .50 calibers and RPGs, we have the God given right to have them. While I see no use in owning a .50 caliber or RPG personally, I believe with every fiber in me, that every person legally and mentally fit has the right to keep and bear ARMS. As many as one desires, can afford, and can safely store when not carried.

    • Bob

      It’s NOT the glue, and does not guarantee squat, never a right which is given and taken away, it’s a duty/obligation… and the taxation should be like groceries, NOTHING.

      • Mikel Duffy

        must be nice to be well enough off that groceries are ‘nothing’ financially.

        • Tom Hayden

          He means there should be no taxes on guns just as there are no taxes on groceries.

          • James Weatherly

            If you Live In North Carolina You Sure as Hell Will !!Just one of the States of Tyranny !!

          • s rider

            NC is 2% which is a lot less than many many other states.

          • hjc4604

            Even the People’s Republic of Maryland doesn’t tax groceries. Everything else, but not groceries.

          • Carol Walters

            Sorry Tom, but we have taxes on groceries where I live. But not in Texas my sister says.

          • trollhunterforlife45

            We are truly going to fall into dark days now. We whom will be glad we prepared, with Our Fire arms. Remember the Assault begins when you ( The Enemy) come at Us first. and trespass my Space !

            American Individuals, Warriors Vets, LEO,Fire Fighters, EMT’s Doctors and All Craftsman Only in Christ and those who want to be saved in the last days before we are caught up in the darkest days since WW II. Will be saved ,if we all will repent and then seek .The Kingdom ( Jesus Christ). We must come together in places ,we will be called to go. Like Jews from around the world to Israel. America is our home. I will not leave her like a wife and hide .We can not hide from God.

            Danger as of Today 01/028/014.We see the newly elected RINO’S who wanted to vote out Rove wade back out at the last moment and To the Mormons in UT now backing out on the DOMA law suit and F aux Christian Churches giving in to a new proxy with out Christ, now marrying Homo Sexual’s In the Church !

            How can you help them see the Sin, if you allow this ? Te Faux Jesuit POPE and Strange Invasion from Central America Via Mexico so they say !

            So what Sins are coming back on US ,or the Pedophile homo Sexual pervert War mongers in the George Soroes Corp
            profiteers in America , in DC and the LBJ became lost KKK…… DemConfederateDemocratic Controlled Govts.of America and in the UK?

            Our Lord and king Jesus Said. He preaches not any religion but to be religious in Giving and helping and helping us. We Are the Church body, is us ,then we have a meeting place a Simple Church building home or outside camp site.bringing in to his Spirit to his Saving grace by Us whom are witness to salvation in our Lives and Experiences. with love. To those who are weak and will not use a fire arm. and The Unsaved who seek it. While we share the word of God. TO SERVE GOD first ! A Bible in one hand and a Rifle in the other. The 3 % where Christians in the Continental Army of the original G.W in the Revolutions

            So we whom Believe will do so. We whom Know we are Warriors.

            We have the right to fight until we are taken in battle or Fear or a heart failure but the Spirit will Chose whom Jesus will give the Power of Angels to fight Until Jesus battles In the Valley of death, with Satan and his human Evil Demonic Human warriors and Govt Rulers. . Resources will be here for us whom believe in the Gospel promises of Christ From God in Heaven and only God is Good .

            We will Not take the Mark of the Beast.

            As Christ told john Not to write all Jesus truths and Prophecies, in Revelations, but to keep hidden, what is to come. To add or take away ,God have mercy on YOU who Misprint or take away the references to salvation In Christ.

            Warning! With out the Triune God. ” Laugh Not ,those whom reject the Holy Spirit will not be Pardoned. whom Reject are Finished to Eternal torment whom reject This Command.”

          • Robert Mesnard

            Carol, note that Tom says there SHOULD be no taxes on guns. I think he knows in some places there are taxes on groceries, but there shouldn’t be taxation on food, or medicine either. Next they’ll tax the air you breathe.

          • Mikel Duffy

            oh.
            well, i feel kind of like an asshat now.
            carry on.

          • Robert Mesnard

            Don’t feel that way Mikel. You spoke your mind, so did Tom. We all learned; that’s what this is for.

          • Bob

            Same for medical

        • James Weatherly

          Piss Ant,Piss Ant, PISS ANT!! That all you got????

  • Gregory Alan of Johnson

    There’s one term throughout the whole of this dialog that needs to be defined and agreed upon: “God”. I’ve made the massive mistake of presuming just who/what that term referred. It’s time Romans 10:9 Believers in the one true Christ Yeshua used at least one of His names when referencing His position (God/Creator): Elohim, Yehovah, Yahweh, El Shaddai, Adonai, will all work (until proven otherwise. We can do better than “God”.

    • Snufy

      What’s your big problem with using God as the name of The Lord in Heaven? Even God said His Name is God. The first commandment says, “thou shall have no other god before me.” The actual name of The Lord is holy, and could only be whispered by the high priest in the inner chamber of the temple.
      To know and use the name of The Lord God is to posess great power.
      I am an ordained minister.

      • Bob

        Exodus 20.3 Thou shalt have no other elohim before me.

      • Rev. Vernon York

        As an ordained minister you should know that God is a noun and a title, not a name.

        Even pagan gods have names that they are called by. I have a dog but his name isn’t dog. Why do you think so much of TV and civil authority is quite OK with saying or praying to God/god but they rarely if every will say in Jesus/Yeshua’s NAME, and those who dare to say it have been sued or threatened with lawsuit all around the country.
        Exo_6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by MY NAME JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

        Exo_9:16 And in very deed for this cause have I raised thee up, for to shew in thee my power; and that MY NAME may be declared throughout all the earth.

        Jer 23:26 How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart;
        Jer 23:27 Which think to cause my people to FORGET MY NAME by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbor, as their fathers have forgotten MY NAME for Baal.

        The men who made the decisions not to use the NAME/S of our Creator and replace them with with a title have made a grave error. If You want to refer to the God/ a god by writing G O D it is always best to include HIS NAME not only out of respect but to indicate to those who are reading/hearing EXACTLY WHO YOU ARE REFERRING TO AND GIVE WORSHIP TO.

        • Snufy

          Yes, sir, I agree with you that the term ‘god’ can, and is, used as a noun to depict any object of worship, such as the love of money, sex, power, etc. However, when used with a capital G, most people use it that way to refer to The Lord in Heaven. I have no problem with that.
          Thank you for the reply. It’s refreshing to speak with someone of knowledge.

          • The Muslims and others also identify their god with a capital G. They are also sure to identify their god by name, Why should Christians be any less tenacious about identifying their God by His memorial name Yahweh-Exodus 3:14-16? Why is it that the name of every other false god (Baal, etc.) can be found in the Bible, but the name of the God of the Bible was removed by the English translators based upon a Jewish tradition (Matthew 15:6-9)?

            For more, see free online book on the Third Commandment at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/onlineBooks/third-commandment.html.

          • Snufy

            Thank you for the link. You are correct.

          • You’re welcome.

          • USMC69

            No, Muslims identify their god with a capital A.

        • I believe in Jesus Christ

          you stick with your religion and leave mine alone…reverend. Clear?

          • Rev. Vernon York

            I don’t know who you are or what exactly you are talking about, but I do know that you don’t know my “religion” nor I yours in any detail, for that matter, but It seems that you are taking exception to my response to “Snufy??

            From your post below I can see that you have read Luke 22:36, and it appears that you have also comprehended it. Since you were able to find that Scripture, I’m sure that you can also find the ones I posted above???
            ABUNDANTLY CLEAR?

          • I believe in Jesus Christ

            If you need someone to hold your hand through life then go find someone else. How clear is that????

          • Rev. Vernon York

            I need Jesus Christ and so do You! I know Him and His Word quite well, and how it applies to what is the Thesis of the discussion here. However, judging from your adolescent comments You do not, and Your avatar slogan CLEARLY does not reflect what you really are! That’s why your comments here are NOT Christ centered but self centered.

          • I believe in Jesus Christ

            LOL. How childish Rev. Stop pretending to be something you are not. Call yourself a piece of green cheese. It will be more believable.

          • Rev. Vernon York

            I know who I am, and what I am, and have a well documented track record of the same, and I have accurately handled the WORD in these discussions. YOU ARE THE PRETENDER, like many others online who claim to know Yahweh but are too ashamed to put their name on their claim…so they cower behind their avatar names and spew immature childish aspersions.

          • I believe in Jesus Christ

            I feel sorry for you Vernon. Have a great day anyway

          • Rev. Vernon York

            Nameless,

            You needn’t feel sorry for me. My eternity is paid for and bought with a price…the Blood of Christ. All those who read these posts can readily see that you have been disingenuous and petty, and certainly not on point.

            This makes one wonder if your “facade name” is just that….a facade. A man of God is about getting to the truth and standing on the truth, not “foolish jesting”…’as you shall give an account of every idle word that proceeds from your mouth’…
            IF you ACTUALLY BELIEVE in Jesus Christ, you would know that HE is omnipresent and therefore eternally aware of your behavior here. Which leads me to believe that your facade name does not reflect what you actually are. You see, it is I that feel sorry for you, because if your are actually a born again Christian, Your testimony here is seriously compromised. If you are not Saved, then you are a wolf in sheep clothing and well on your way to eternal punishment. Either way I hope you will see the light and repent.

            Prayerfully Yours,
            Rev. Vernon York

          • I believe in Jesus Christ

            I am not responsible for your “belief”…nor anyone else’s “Rev”. You should see a good head doctor. Might help. Never can tell.

          • Rev. Vernon York

            I am the first to admit when I have done what I shouldn’t have, and I can see I have been “casting pearls before swine”, and I am done with you.

          • I believe in Jesus Christ

            Thank you. That’s the best news I’ve had today. Adios.

          • I believe in Jesus Christ

            Dear Vernon, your ideas and thoughts are noted and dismissed. Have a great day.

      • Gregory Alan of Johnson

        “God” and “Creator” are terms defining a position; not a name.

        • Snufy

          Very true, Greg.

  • I believe in Jesus Christ

    It is a God given right. In Luke chapter 22: 36 Christ commands all Christians to be armed. He said, “Before I told you to go and not take anything, now it is different. Now you must take your money, your coat, and a sword. If you do not have a sword then you must sell your coat and buy one.”
    I am a Christian. I am exercising my God given right to be armed. No, I take that back…it is not a “right”….it is an ORDER from God.

    • T. Edward Price

      It is a God given right. … I am exercising my God given right to be armed. No, I take that back…it is not a “right”….it is an ORDER from God.

      This is the conundrum we face when claiming the God given right to be armed. All rights can be either exercised or ignored. One has the right to choose what to eat, where to live, what to read, what to sing in the shower, etc. There is NO God given right to bear arms. A man may make the choice to not defend himself. But for a Christian man with a family, that is not allowed by Scripture. There is no right for him to opt out of protecting himself. For if a man is unable to protect himself, then he is unable to provide for his family:

      But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

      It is NOT a God given right, but a God MANDATED duty for man to be adequately armed, and sufficiently trained, to be at the ready to defend self, family, neighbor, and community. Unlike rights, which are always optional, the duty for self protection has no opt out clause.

      • I believe in Jesus Christ

        OK fine, let me rephrase for those who don’t believe in God. When God COMMANDS you, you must do it. Ignore it if you will. I won’t

        • T. Edward Price

          We are in complete agreement on that.

  • Keith Melton

    Sad to say, we the people refuse to throw off our present tyrannical govt.

  • Feltre

    But Ehud made him a dagger which had two edges, of a cubit length, and he did gird it under his raiment upon his right thigh. Judges 3:16 Sounds like God commanded concealed carry to me.

  • Vince Ard

    Look at nature. Every beast, fish, and fowl has some sort of defense against predators. Do you think deers shouldn’t be able to posses antlers longer than 30″? Everyone would laugh at a law like that, but for some reason it’s OK to regulate the defenses of two legged animals? WTF?!

  • Corey

    Actual George Washington quote, to be fair: “A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.”

  • Jerry Verdugo

    It is a natural “right” for any “human being” in self-defense to use whatever is available to preserve their life. In order to be the “winner” in any conflict with another human, a side arm will always come out the winner. Unfortunately, not all humans use deadly force in self-defense. So, it is in order to have some type of gun control. In case you want to know, Jesus did say to His disciple to buy swords in order to keep himself from being assassinated–self defense!

    • Wuz nt Me

      Forgive me if I’m misinterpreting what you said. Are you saying that gun control is justified because you don’t always need deadly force to defend yourself…?
      Wouldn’t that be like saying you don’t always need a spare tire because you won’t always get a flat..?

  • Albert Perez

    A. Jesus also made sure that his followers had enough weapons to defend themselves when He sent them out to preach.
    B. If anyone objects to the term “God given rights” he (or she) can substitute natural born rights.
    C. love may not be for the lucky and the strong, but freedom surely is, If you go unarmed you are trusting to luck alone,which is your right. However, you do not have the right to require that I make the same choice.

  • Subdoc101

    The guy who spouted off all of his anti gun stuff accuses everyone who does oi r wants to carry a religious zealot and rednecks.
    he claims that the Second Amendment and the right to keep and bear arms has nothing to do with the Bible or religion, ok let’s give him that one for the sake of argument my question in return to this mental midget would be what does a redneck have to do with it?

    Using the epitaph redneck to sum is as offensive as other stereotypical titles. He has clearly been around Obama too long and remembers Obama’s ignorant statement about people clinging to their guns and Bibles that’s was not only ignorant but it was as offensive as ignorant. The guy who made these comments about rednecks is even more ignorant because he cannot see how offensive unformed an ignorant Obama was by making that statement to begin with. We have become so politically correct in this country that the millions of people who crossed are southern border against our laws are now protesting in the streets for being referred to as ” illegal aliens: if you crossed the border illegally to get into this country, and you are not from this country, you are by definition an illegal alien it illegal because you broke the law to get here, alien because you are not originally from here example would be if I crossed the border of Mexico without going through the proper procedures and getting permission, not being from Mexico I would by definition be an illegal alien.

    It is time to stop using references to white people especially southern white people as rednecks or as some in the black community would call why people crackers. The intolerance of everyone else who does not fit the above description on the very ones who demand tolerance.

    The moron that made become in about rednecks wanting to carry their guns and Bibles needs to put down his keyboard and pick up a dictionary. I would be willing to bet that’s all of the citizens of this country that are not from the south but choose to exercise their right under the 2nd amendment are as numerous if not more then those who live in the south so again by definition if you are assuming what a redneck is a white person from the south urns insane the people in the North are not prone to exercising their 2nd Amendment rights under the Constitution.

    Those who gripe and complain about it the most then I can see are extreme far left political leaning people who just repeat what they hear some brain dead politician about on TV and has never done any real research of their own.perhaps that is because the only people that they know about carrying a firearm R street thugs and other criminals who under the law are not allowed to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights Deuter their felony status therefore they possess illegal firearms and stick a gun in your face and take your car or your money or both and then just shoot you for the hell of it. Perhaps if more people who are law-abiding citizens pointed a gun at this punk they might think twice before sticking a gun in someone’s face, a gun that they stole from someone, and killing innocent law abiding unarmed citizens.

    If I was so ignorant that that is the only thing I thought of when thinking of people in America caring guns I probably would not be in favor of caring guns either. So to the individual who made that ridiculously ignorant commentabout rednecks religion and firearms I would offer you this I am none of the above not a religious nut I am NOT a redneck I do how ever carry a concealed firearm legally for the past 25 years. I have never used it in an unlawful manner I have never committed a felony but if someone wants to stick a gun in my face they will have probably a bigger one. It in their face before they have time just tell me that give up the wallet furthermore been trained on firearms in the military for 30 years and in the private sector for at least that long one thing you can rest assured of those of us who are intensely trained in the safety, law, usage of firearms the very most likely situation is if a legally armed citizen points a gun at you they will do it in the process of shooting you in defense of themselves or others whose lines are at risk by your conduct. That my friend is the only way that anyone will ever know that I am caring a concealed weapon.

    So wake up jackass and go wake up the rest of your ignorance friends do some research without calling the other anti gun nuts trick the Department of Justicehave been committed in the last 10 years by someone who was legally carrying a firearm. If you have the courage to speak the truth you will most likely find out that for every thousand homicides which are deemed murder and the individual is prosecuted and convicted is less than 1 and 5000

    I’m done now. Got to go read my bible, clean my gun, pay my NRA Dues, and tell my woman to fetch me some vittles before I get all riled up and go fetch me a switch and give her a whoopingand then get in my truck and go down to the local honky tonk.

  • vincewarde

    I’m an ordained minister and a lifelong gun guy. I took some time to explore what Jesus said and why in this post:

    Did Jesus Order His Disciples To Be Armed?
    http://reasonedpolitics.blogspot.com/2014/12/did-jesus-order-his-disciples-to-be.html

    Hint: THE ANSWER IS YES!

  • brenpd

    Mr. Oliva, Your “friend” that you quoted in your article says that the 2nd amendment is a man given right. What about the 1st?

    • Bullets First

      He probably believes that people have the right to say what they want…so long as they agree with him. I find that to be the way with liberals.

  • Mickey

    Why the “atheist” slur? I’m an atheist, and a Life Member of the NRA.

    The Second Amendment has nothing to do with the Bible. It’s based on the premise that all rights are inherent in the citizen, and cannot be taken by the government because the government has no such authority. Society can take away a person’s civil rights if that person violates the social contract. (Basically, if he violates another person’s rights.)

    “The Creator” was involved, according to Jefferson and some of the other thinkers among the Founding Fathers, but of course Jefferson, Adams, Franklin and several other prominent Revolutionary leaders were Deists, not Christians.

    Aside from that philosophy, which drew from the English political philosopher John Locke, the Second Amendment itself derived largely from English Common Law of the time, which not only allowed Citizens to be armed but REQUIRED them to be when traveling away from home, and which FORBADE agents of the government from carrying arms. (Part of the reason why the Founders were so angry, as they considered themselves to be English citizens who were being illegally harassed and oppressed by English officials and members of the standing army.)

  • What about where John Adams, the second President of the United States, signed a treaty (ratified unanimously by the Senate) that said “the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion”?

    Source: Treaty of Tripoli, Art. 11. Nov. 4, 1796

  • rita

    LUKE 22:36

  • Facts about the 2nd Amendment that go unnoticed, unaddressed or garbled:

    —The 2nd Amendment identifies the actors who’s efforts are “necessary to the security of a free State”

    — “Arms” alone are insufficient to secure a “free State”—which the first 13 words of the 2nd Amendment make crystal clear.

    — The 2nd Amendment designates the1 thing in the entire Constitution that is declared “necessary” not “optional”.

    — The word “necessary” itself appears in the Bill of Rights only once— in the 2nd Amendment when referring to the “militia”.

    — The 2nd Amendment is the only instance in which the Constitution specifies anything as “necessary” for any particular purpose.

    — The 2nd Amendment specifies the “militia” explicitly as “necessary” for the purpose of a “free State”.

    — Other than the Preamble, the Second Amendment is the only place in which the Constitution explains the reason for any right, power, privilege, duty, or disability that it recognizes.

    — There are a total of 5 militia clauses in the Constitution, the 2nd Amendment being 1 of 5.

    One important point about the Bill of Rights itself in order to understand its proper construction from the first Congress who understood the Bill of Rights as well as any Congress could have, since they had drafted, debated and ratified the document:

    To ensure that public officials would always adhere to the correct construction of the original Constitution, the Bill of Rights, consisting of “further declaratory and restrictive clauses”, was added to the Constitution “in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers”.

    Source: RESOLUTION OF THE FIRST CONGRESS SUBMITTING 12 AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION (4 March 1789), in Documents Illustrative of the Formation of the Union of the American States, ante note 218, at 1063.

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