Carrying guns and drinking booze

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I know there are a wide range of opinions on the matter.

And in truth I think guns and alcohol go together as well as driving and alcohol.  Yet, with that being said, who among us hasn’t had a drink with dinner at a restaurant and then drove home?  Just because a drop of alcohol passes our lips does not immediately make us drunken blathering idiots.

It comes down to personal responsibility.  I know, in today’s America that is a radical concept.

In Pennsylvania it is legal to carry a loaded firearm into a bar and have a drink.  I know in other states in the union they like to micromanage through legislation every facet of a person’s life in order to control them as much as possible “for their own good”.

It always baffles me when government treats its citizens like helpless children and then are surprised when those citizens act like idiotic children.  We, as a society have been fostering this notion of “passing the buck” and “nothing is our fault” for a while now.

What happened to the nation that pulls itself up by its own bootstraps, that takes responsibility for its own actions?

I don’t need a law to tell me not to be a drunken jackass with a gun.  

So yeah. Where it is legal I will responsibly continue to carry a firearm.

If you don’t trust yourself to do the same by all means don’t but don’t try and legislate your weaknesses onto me.

 

 

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  • Brian

    Here is where common since would prevail. Drinking and driving don’t mix, same as drinking and guns. The fact you give your keys to a friend is an admeral one, along with your clip. Here is a novel approach.

    I am not going to leave my fire arm at home. I just became the designated driver and security person for our group that night. I don’t drink, that night and still carry my firearm. I have just cut my legal liability in half. It is easier to talk to someone if I have a clear head.

    • bulletsfirst

      Brian, also a fine solution. My point wasn’t to try and convince people to follow my lead, but rather illustrate the need for personal responsibility. And that it is better to stay armed than to sacrifice safety for a night of drinking.

      But i still believe that it is an individuals choice on how to be responsible and that trying to legislate such a notion is counter productive.

    • Bullets First

      Brian, also a fine solution. My point wasn’t to try and convince people to follow my lead, but rather illustrate the need for personal responsibility. And that it is better to stay armed than to sacrifice safety for a night of drinking.

      But i still believe that it is an individuals choice on how to be responsible and that trying to legislate such a notion is counter productive.

    • Barry Hirsh

      An answer in search of a question. If you don’t drink to excess, then making an issue where there isn’t one is a waste of time. If you want to limit yourself in that manner, that’s fine.

      Personally, I’ve never found it necessary. Ever.

  • Barry Hirsh

    EGGS ACKLEY!! The law should mirror DUI standards.

    I lived the first half of my life in Pennsylvania. I was licensed to carry there also. I carried into bars and drank, and never thought a single thing about it. I left those bars and drove home safely. To my knowledge, there were no significant problems with drunks moving past fists and shooting it out.

    The “carry in bars” question is unfortunately subject to the same knee-jerk, emotional, unfounded reaction as “carry in schools”.

    Either subject pushes a button in the uninformed segment that makes their eyes flood red and their ears and brains shut down.

    And that is no condition to be in when enacting laws.

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  • EmmyP

    I like the law here in FL. You’re allowed to carry while having a drink (if licensed), but it’s not legal to “handle a firearm” while,under the influence. You can carry into a bar, but it’s a felony if you don’t have a permit. If you’re licensed, it’s a misdemeanor.

  • Leigh Rich

    In Iowa you can have a alcoholic drink while carrying. However like driving you can’t be above .08. This shall carry law has been in effect since 2011 and there have been no issues of gun fights or arrests. Prior to that the Iowa laws for concealed carry prohibited any alcohol. Arizona has the best laws IMHO.

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