2nd Amendment Infringements Endanger US Troops and Their Families

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When you add up the number of military personnel, including National Guard, Reservists and the Coast Guard, the United States has about 2.2 million service members who have volunteered to put their lives on the lines to defend this nation of ours.

Yet a great deal of these troops have been betrayed by their state governments and denied the protection that the 2nd Amendment enumerates.  Even by the MOST LIBERAL ANTI GUN interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, these 2.2 million people (if no one else) should not have their 2nd Amendment right infringed.

If you are a service member in Vermont or Alaska or Arizona then you have nothing to worry about because your state recognizes the 2nd Amendment rights of all it’s citizens.  Yet if you live in New York, Maryland, San Francisco and other such dens of iniquity you are pretty much out of luck, just like every other law abiding citizen.

Unfortunately for the troops, the Central Florida Intelligence Exchange (a federal/local fusion intelligence organization focusing on domestic terrorist threats) has released a bulletin it which it reports that radical Islamic extremists are trying to encourage followers to seek out and murder U.S. military personnel at their homes.

The bulletin also cites a Twitter post, which instructed jihadists to use social media to find soldiers’ names and addresses.  Which makes perfect sense because how guarded have people really been with the information that is available about them online?

How easy is to to find out about a soldier online, locate them on google maps and go and murder them in their home?  Too easy…and even easier if that soldier happens to live in a state with draconian gun laws that have stripped them of their right to self defense.

It is a shame and a travesty that men and women who volunteer to fight American’s enemies abroad are denied the ability to defend themselves upon returning home.

Terrorists are just going to keep getting smarter…why would they focus attacks on military bases that are loaded with firearms and defensive measures when they could simply meander over to the service members house and murder them at leisure because the best the troops can do at that point is call 911 and wait, hoping the terrorists take their time slaughtering their family so that when the police finally show up their might be someone left to save.  Thanks to the Brady Campaign and Michael Bloomberg and their ilk, in many places that is the only choice the troops are left with.  Thanks gun control.

Just to be clear, I believe that the right to keep and bear arms extends to ALL American’s not just those who wear a uniform, but with that being said our troops have volunteered and in doing so have made themselves targets, both abroad AND at home.

The US makes sure they can defend themselves overseas but leaves them flapping in the wind when they return home.

Government once again fails the troops…surprise surprise.

 

  • Virgil Hilts

    Don’t assume that these men and women have no firearms in their homes…nor that they fail to implement ‘Concealed Carry’ when in public. A few dead Muslims will tilt the field in our favor!

    • GI Joe

      If they’re off-base in California and get stopped for a minor traffic infraction, they could wind up in Pelican Bay State Prison for a very long time. Better (in my opinion) to have an order for all military, active, reserve, guard, and vets to carry at all times and to have accessible a long arm (or several!) in their homes. An order from the C in C will supersede state laws to the contrary and provide the military and vets the “get out of jail free” card they may need, depending on state of assignment/domicile.

      • Virgil Hilts

        My long arm can reach out to 2700 yards…at 2650f.p.s.

        • GI Joe

          Impressive. Sounds like a .50BMG! But, if you’re in a state where that’s not legal to own, possess or shoot, like CA, it really can’t help! Not that I wouldn’t like one (I live in AZ, but can’t afford to either buy or feed one!).

          • Virgil Hilts

            THAT was a dumb typo on my part. Should have been 300-400 yards…although closer is more likely…the venerable M-1 Garand! Still hits with about 2650 foot-lbs at such a range.

          • WILDCATF4F

            See my post above,!.

          • GI Joe

            Mr Hilts, just guessing here, but it sounds like you’re a Marine! I, too, am privileged to own and cherish an M1 made by H & R after the Korean War. I also own a 1903 Springfield whose receiver was made by Rock Island just before they closed. It has a 1942 dated bbl and I suspect it saw service in the Pacific. Both are, in my opinion, outstanding arms.

            As an aside, after 13 years in the Army and its reserve components, I accepted a US Navy commission. Only lasted a couple years, though, due to personal issues.

          • Virgil Hilts

            Jeez..call me Virgil…no sir…was never in the Corps…but I am an adamant supporter and serious student of Marine Corps history. They are the finest fighting force …EVER! I admire fortitude. I am the youngest living son (at 64) of Lt. (j.g.) Thomas H. Hogan, Naval Aviator and F6-F ‘Hellcat’ driver, WW II, Pacific theater………
            My Garand is ‘Springfield Armory’. Serial # on receiver is 831274…made in mid-50’s. At recent gun show I met up with a former member of the Army Marksmanship Team…mid-50’s. I was pleased when after inspecting the barrel, he replied: “Nothing wrong with THIS barrel.”

            I imagine you know that H&R is Harrison and Richards…they did a good job too.

            P.S. (‘Wildcat F4F enlisted in the Navy in 1937…and…fought ay Midway!) In my never to be humble opinion, anyone under 30 ought to snap-to and stand at attention before posting a comment to him. He EARNED it.)

          • GI Joe

            Virgil (thank you), I agree with your P.S. But I would expand it to include ANYONE who did not serve in WWII. Our Korean War and Vietnam Vets can be excused, but anyone like me who entered service after Vietnam should “lock it up” and come to attention in deference to and respect for our rapidly diminishing number of WWII vets. My dad was on a tanker (USS Talullah) in the Pacific ’43-’45. On his birthday in 1945 his ship was sitting in Tokyo Bay to witness the surrender!

            H&R is a producer of arms generally considered mid-grade in quality. While I like my M1 very much, I hope to locate a Winchester war vet to add to my collection. Someday, I hope to be able to afford a Win 13 (rare and expensive!). A friend currently owns an UNFIRED Win 13! It’s worth around $5,000+.

          • Virgil Hilts

            I heartily agree with your evaluation regarding ANY vet! As you know…it has become quite common of late to use the phrase, “Thank you for your service”…which I feel does not carry the gravity and respect deserved…in light of the danger. I have subsequently converted to “Thank you for putting your azz on the line; because THAT is what it was…

          • GI Joe

            You’ve probably heard this definition of a vet, but I just read it at the Phoenix VA Med Center chapel yesterday: A veteran, whether retired, active duty, reserve, or just one who wore the uniform, is someone who, at some time in their life, wrote a check payable to “The United States of America” for any amount, up to and including, my life.

          • Virgil Hilts

            Yes Sir! I have that one in my archives. One portion is entitled ‘Humor.’
            For your enjoyment. “When a female reporter asked a Marine Sgt. about he and his men being possibly sent into harms’ way, the Sgt replied: “Ma’am, we’re United States Marines! We ARE harms Way! OOHRAH!!

          • GI Joe

            Gotta send that to my cousin — a former Marine!

          • Virgil Hilts

            See new reply.

        • WILDCATF4F

          How are the ‘IMPROVEMENTS’ coming along,? I look for ward to your report.
          I know that the MV drops to ‘sub sonic’ at 1100 1150 yards, the reason the Springfield 03 carries the name of ‘WHISPERING DEATH’. U.S. Marines have been using it to ‘Destroy’ the enemy moral, by dropping the Commanders, regardless of the rank, as when it comes down to a Cpl. to step up and fill in for the loss of those higher than them,!. When you have a Co of ‘Privates’, they generally choose to sit back and wait for new leaders to become the new ‘TARGETS’!.
          LOCKED & LOADED!!!

          • Virgil Hilts

            Physical improvements are slowly advancing day by day. It’s still very peculiar to type. On a related subject…when the First Marine Brigade began their assault on the Germans at Belleau Wood…the noticed that they were taking casualties…and presumed that it was spent rounds. As more and more fell, the realized, to their horror, that Marines with 1903 Springfields, had opened up on them with AIMED fire, at about 500-600 yards , if memory serves.. The Germans had NEVER been trained beyond, I think, 300 yards. You know the rest. Teufelhunden! (I’ll be back with a correction on those numbers , if needed.(
            As Always…Locked, Loaded and Motivated!

          • Virgil Hilts

            Here’s the bit. ”
            “It
            is the 4th Brigade’s wartime service in France that is most remembered. The 4th
            Brigade was the largest unit of Marines ever assembled up to that point in the
            Corps’ history. It was composed of the 5th and 6th Regiments and the 6th
            Machine-gun Battalion, Totaling 9,444 officers and men. The Brigade fought at
            Bois de Belleau, Soissons, Saint Mihiel, Blanc Mont Ridge, and the Argonne.
            After eight months of virtually continuous combat by 11 November 1918 the
            Marines in France had suffered 11,366 casualties. This was more than the
            combined total of causalities sustained by the Corps during its prior 143 years
            of existence.

            On June 1, 1918, the US 2nd Division formed a line astride the Paris-Metz road,
            with the 23rd Infantry on the left flank, the 6th and 5th Marines in the
            center, and the 9th Infantry on the right. At dawn, on the 2nd, the German 28th
            Division attacked along the axis of the road and hit the Marine center. Their
            destination was Paris, but the German veterans soon received a lesson in rifle
            fire that began to kill at 800 yards.

          • WILDCATF4F

            I enjoy our ‘Conversations’, as many are not just an exchange of trivia,, but are in the larger part, a ‘Teaching Experience’ to/for those that follow us, and I hope they are so encouraged to do more than watch some brain dead TV program and look up what we pass from one to the other, so they can say, ” Now That’s interesting, ” and after looking this or that up, then pass it on to a member of their family or friends/coworkers. We know the Schools are not going to do it,!.
            I know that the M1 Garand can with a good scope reach out and touch a target well in excess of 1200 yards, even with vibrations of the semi-auto action, I am sure the , ” I GOT that one,! ” will be reason for use of a camera.
            LOCKED & LOADED!!!

      • Bullets First

        Not bad notion GI Joe, though like I said, the right to defend one’s self should extend to all free Americans.

        Also, what are the chances that the current C in C will ever issue such an order?

        • GI Joe

          Agreed.

    • WILDCATF4F

      I full heartedly agree,!!! and know that while CaliGAY might want to toss the U.S. Constitution, BUT, I am able to rest assured that they will have that kind of stupidity dumped all over them when those who are serving the U.S.A. put down a good number of MS-13, and other Criminal/Terrorist groups-members, and send many that are NOT supposed to be here, decide that going HOME before they join the DEAD!.
      Now as for those that will still say things need to be changed, (so they can feel they are IN CHARGE), they will be encouraged to join those that are LEAVING!!! and NOT look back!.
      /* [Hand Salute]
      LOCKED & LOADED!!!.

      • Virgil Hilts

        /* [Returned!]

  • Graywolf12

    The only base I was stationed on in a 21 year career that I did not have fire arms with me was Clark AFB in the Pi.

    • GI Joe

      In 15 years, I NEVER had access to arms on base/post. In fact, it was a court-martial offense to be caught with a personal arm on post (Army) unless taking the arm from, or returning it too, the Post Provost Marshall (or is it Martial?) arms locker. While in the Navy, the same applied: No guns unless issued and authorized! That was from March 1977 – August 1992.

      • Graywolf12

        I was in during a sensible time 1958-1979. In Alaska I carried a Ruger 44 Mag. all over the base, and in town, was never questioned. We had to show we were armed, so in the winter raw hide tie downs hung below our parka. Could not keep it on in a bar. In a bar or restaurant that served booze we had to give it to the bartender till we left. We had to register them with the Provost Martials office..

        • Bullets First

          I was in more recently and having personal weapons on base was a big no no. That’s how the Ft. Hood shooting went down, the guy open fired and no one had a personal weapon to shot back.

          But as others have said, even if you carry you’re M-4 around on base because of orders, once you leave to go home, if you are in some parts of California or Maryland you go home unarmed because they states refuse the right.

          When you have big al queda sized bullseye on your back….that’s an infringement that will cost lives.

          • Graywolf12

            Up until the work place violence, Pisses me off, we could go to Fort Hood and hunt deer. Since then the retirees news letter has no mention of hunting. This regime is screwing up the whole country.

          • GI Joe

            Does WMR at Ft Hood put out a flyer? That should have both restrictions and permitted areas noted. Or, the WMR office should be able to tell you what’s up. (WMR=Welfare, Morale, & Recreation)

          • Graywolf12

            I receive a retiree news letter once or twice a year. It always had all the WMR info in it, but now there is no info on hunting. I think they have stopped it. I never thought to check as I have a friend in SW Texas with a ranch I can hunt on any time I want for free. Just returned from a sheep hunt 2 weeks ago.

          • GI Joe

            Aww. Now THAT’S just not nice. Now I’m very jealous!! If Ft Hood is convenient for you, it may be worth contacting the post (one or more of several offices!) to get a definitive answer. If the post commander has ceased hunting privileges on post, the State of Texas may want to know since they will be responsible for herd management. Unless fed Fish and Wildlife gets involved.

          • Graywolf12

            Received Retiree news letter today. There is not even a phone number for MWR office. I intend to call base number and ask for it.

          • GI Joe

            Good luck. Hope you’re able to find out what’s up!

        • GI Joe

          Given you were at Clark AFB, I’m guessing you were a “zoomie”. How did you manage to not only have a personal arm on base, but wear it openly on base? That’s a head scratcher for me! During my entire military “career”, I was repeatedly told that personal arms were not allowed unless stored, not just registered, with the Provost Martial. If we lived off post/base, and had personal arms, they had to be registered with the provost.

          At Ft Leonard Wood (Basic Combat Training), Ft Sam Houston (medical lab spec training), Presidio of San Francisco (med research tech), Ft Ord, CA, (annual training, reservist), Ft Bliss, TX, (annual training, reservist), overseas annual training (Honduras), Ft Carson, CO, (annual training, reservist), Naval Hospital, Long Beach, CA (Navy nurse during Desert Shield/Desert Storm) I NEVER was allowed to carry. And, as I say, I entered service in March 1977.

          • Graywolf12

            USAF. In Alaska I kept a 22, 300 Savage and 12 Ga. in the gun rack in the cab of my pickup. I never tried to go on Fort Richardson armed, but I do not remember if we were told not to or why. I left there in 71, so memory is a little fuzzy on some things. It is a joint base now, but in the old days the two were separated by a creek. There were controlled moose hunts on Richardson, but AF WERE NOT ALLOWED TO ENTER THE DRAWING FOR A PERMIT.

          • GI Joe

            That moose hunt restriction is bizarre.

  • Mark Bigger

    it is plain and simple: read the second amendment–all men shall have the right to own and bear arms. These rights shall not be infringed. No infringements no exceptions. The constitution is the law of the land. We The People make up this country and need to regain our control over it. When ISIS or Fe d tyrannical private armies come after us, EVERYONE should be able to defend themselves. Again, no exceptions. Get together with other like minded people in your communities and form a group that can help each other out in case of any disasters or emergencies

  • GI Joe

    In my opinion, it is time for the Congress and the President to get off their fat asses and generate a new national firearms law that allows all former, current, and future military members (unless they have become legitimate prohibited possessors) to easily obtain and carry the arm(s) of their choice for personal defense. This threat is real and it is ongoing. Our military, active, reserve, guard, whatever, MUST be able to defend themselves and/or their family until the civil authorities can arrive (like the cavalry!?). Now is the time to allow our military and vets to have the ability to provide a neighborhood first defense capability. We need also to revitalize the unorganized militia, as discussed in the US Constitution, for neighborhood and community defense, in the event of need.

  • Philip Averill

    Go out of that state, purchase you that firearm…modify it if you need to and dont say a fucking word, not to your buddy or no one.