State Police Illegally Ties Drivers License To Carry Permits Violating the Law

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What good are laws when even the law-keepers refuse to obey them?

That is the question facing the law abiding citizens of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania as the State Police are actively breaking the law by having a persons LTCF disclosed to them whenever they pull over a driver.  You see, a recent update to the NCIC was done that now couples the information so when they run your drivers license they will also be informed whether you have a license to carry a firearm.

Only one problem…such a move is completely illegal.

To wit:

8 Pa.C.S. § 6111(g)(3.1) provides:

Any person, licensed dealer, licensed manufacturer or licensed importer who knowingly and intentionally obtains or furnishes information collected or maintained pursuant to section 6109 [LTCF firearms information] for any purpose other than compliance with this chapter or who knowingly or intentionally disseminates, publishes or otherwise makes available such information to any person other than the subject of the information commitsa felony of the third degree.

Further, 18 Pa.C.S. § 6111(i) provides, in pertinent part:

All information provided by the … applicant, including, but not limited to, the … applicant’s name or identity, furnished by … any applicant for a license to carry a firearm as provided by section 6109 shall be confidential and not subject to public disclosure. In addition to any other sanction or penalty imposed by this chapter, any person, licensed dealer, State or local governmental agency or department that violates this subsection shall be liable in civil damages in the amount of $ 1,000 per occurrence or three times the actual damages incurred as a result of the violation, whichever is greater, as well as reasonable attorney fees.

From the Law Offices of Joshua Prince comes this interpretation:

While there has always been an offline database that an officer could query if he/she had reasonable suspicion of a crime relating to the carrying of a firearm or the validity of a LTCF, there is no legal basis for disclosure of confidential LTCF information relative to a driving infraction or merely running one’s driver’s license. Furthermore, even if there was, it is illegal to disclose this information to individuals other than a law enforcement officer acting in the scope of his/her duties. As I understand the new system, it is being relayed to emergency responders, which may even include tow truck drivers that are part of the system.

This my friends is just further proof that the entire notion of requiring a permit or license to exercise your 2nd Amendment rights is in itself an infringement upon those rights.  It is no different than a poll tax or any other test or requirement to exercise a God given right.  In effect, not only do you have to pay for the right, you now are in some part actively registered as a gun owner and the police seem to have no qualms about breaking the law in order to access that registry.

In short order, because they prove it in situations like these, you cannot trust the government.  As such, Constitutional Carry MUST become the law of the land lest we have more abuses to our rights by the abject refusal to follow the law by those meant to uphold it.

Gun control advocates bray on about how the slippery slope doesn’t exist and no one is coming to take our guns.  The abuse of the permit system currently taking place in Pennsylvania is a prime example that they are lying.

More than 20% of the states in this country have Constitutional Carry…we need to keep adding to that number, Pennsylvania is a good a place as any.

 

  • BOBNIXON1

    TONY, IF YOU WERE A POLICEMAN, AND EVERTIME YOU PULLED SOMEONE OVER
    THERE WAS A CHANCE THEY MAY BLOW YOU AWAY, GUESS YOU DONT CARE WHERE THEY HAVE A GUN OR NOT. THE POLICE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW IF IM PACKING OR NOT.
    YOU AND YOUR LAW IS BS.
    BOB NIXON

    • Michael

      No, they don’t have that right. We the people have the right to be secure “in our effects”. All LEOs should approach all traffic stops assuming there IS a firearm present, regardless.

    • wesleymethodist

      IF THE PERSON STOPPED BY AN OFFICER OF THE LAW WAS OF A NATURE (FOR EXAMPLE A BANK ROBBER, BURGLAR.PEDOPHILE,OR ANY ONE LEAVING THE SCENE OF A CRIME WHICH THEY HAS JUST COMMITED) TO SHOOT SAID OFFICER, DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD HAVE A PERMIT? I AM SURE A CRIMINAL WOULD NOT GET A CARRY PERMIT.

      • Jerome E. Goodwin

        Disconnect your caps lock make you look dumb.

    • Jerome E. Goodwin

      A law abiding person will NOT “Blow them away”. But criminals will and the don’t carry paperwork for their guns. Use some common sense.BTW why are you shouting. disconnect you caps lock.

  • John W Hauserman

    The cops are doing the same thing in Ohio. It sucks but I can’t afford a lawyer to sue them.

    • wesleymethodist

      Have you contacted the NRA about this?

      • John W Hauserman

        No but I will. thanks

      • Paul Joseph

        The JPFO is good too.

  • Alan404

    Law breakers in uniform, this situation is nothing new for the PSP, aka The Coal and Iron Cops. The question that sticks in my mind is the following.When will the clowns that thought this scheme up be criminal charged and fired? It’s my dream,please let me enjoy it, though I’m not holding my breath while I wait. By the way, people who are upset by officialdom violating the law might try the following. Bring this problem to the attention of your state legislators. It might be futile, but perhaps not, doesn’t cost much to make the effort, and the effort should certainly be expended.

  • Brian Richard Allen

    “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. ”

    — Ronald Reagan

    • Paul Joseph

      He was one the the last two good presidents. John F. Kennedy was the other.

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